While relapsing into his murderous delusional state again, he ponders a way to get rid of Frodo and Sam, and mentions that he could let "her" do it. Gollum hopes that by luring Frodo and Sam unknowingly into Shelob's lair, the spider will kill both Hobbits for him, and he can retrieve the Ring. Shelob originally featured in the second book, The Two Towers, but she was moved to the third movie due to narrative difficulties and time constraints. The reference to her made by Gollum was probably intended to build some tension toward the final movie, and also serves as a note to the fans of what is coming.
The Extended Edition of the movie contains an extra scene at the end where Frodo and Sam say goodbye to Faramir, and share their intention to enter Mordor through the pass at Cirith Ungol.
Upon hearing this, Faramir immediately warns them of a dark terror that lurks there, again building tension that Frodo and Sam are walking into a trap set by Gollum. Sign In. Jump to: FAQs 16 Spoilers 2. Is this movie based on a book? To what does "Two Towers" in the title refer? What's the music heard in the last half of the trailer? Why did Frodo fall into the swamp at the Dead Marshes?
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Join Date Jan Posts 4. How did Frodo hear about Gollum? I'm watching the movies and I am unsure how he first heard about him. He seems to already know "Bilbo found it in Gollum's cave" and Gandalf confirms. Only later does Gandalf mention that "only one other knows about it, the creature gollum" Does this imply that Bilbo told Frodo about how he found the ring?
Reply With Quote. Jan 10 , PM 2. Join Date Jul Posts 4, How did Gollum know that Frodo was a Baggins? Thread starter Musica Start date Sep 4, Tags baggins frodo gollum smeagol. Musica New Member. Hail and well met! I'm brand new to this forum and this is my first post. I've been reading so many postings today - all very interesting and informative. May the stars shine on your faces. Deleted member Guest.
Welcome here Musica! To understand this and know of the events in detail, you would actually need to read not LOTR but "The Hobbit ", in which all events are told about the quest for the Lonely Mountain and the finding of the Ring. In particular, Bilbo 's meeting with Gollun is related in Chapter 5 "Riddles in the Dark": He suddenly saw the pale eyes sticking out at him. This is what he had come to find out, for he was not really very hungry at the moment, only curious; otherwise he would have grabbed first and whispered afterwards.
Bilbo Baggins. What is more, he knew where he came from. But that, of course, doesn't answer the question of how he knew Frodo was a Baggins. I never really thought about it before. Time for research!
Edit: OK, a little browsing has turned this up: When Gollum falls from the cliff in the Emyn Muil , Sam jumps him, but Gollum fights back, almost overcoming him, until Frodo comes to his aid: 'Let go! Gollum,' he said. You have seen it once upon a time. Let go, or you will feel it this time. I'll cut your throat. It's also possible that he might have heard the name sometime between Moria and the Breaking; I'll have to look further for that.
But it's likely that anyone wielding the sword of Baggins would be one. At any rate, it's only after this, when Gollum argues with himself, in the desolation around Mordor , that he refers to " this Baggins.
Last edited: Sep 4, Ow, I see what you mean now! I don't think he could have known - not at first, at least. We know that Gollum started following the Fellowship to get out of Moria , but he already knew both Gandalf and Aragorn and also that they were somehow linked to the Ring. Those were compelling reasons enough to follow them even without the assumption that maybe he felt the presence of the Ring too. You have seen it before once upon a time.
A Baggins stole it. He found it and he said nothing, nothing. We hates Bagginses. I see we found those passages at the same time -- and came to the same conclusions. Once again, great minds think alike!
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